No doubt today’s shooting will be discussed…. it’s so shameful, the shit that goes on in this country just because a few nuts have perverted the intent of the Second Amendment. You can’t convince these people to control guns and you can’t convince them to pay taxes for mental health care for lunatics who want to shoot little children. How embarrassing to live in such a barbaric, ridiculous country.
Take a deep breath LA. 250,000 kids injured each year, approximately 2,000 die from their injuries. Children make up about 5% of total fatalities due to car accidents. In fact, for children between the ages of 2 and 14, motor vehicle accidents are the leading cause of death.
Shouldn’t we start banning cars if really care about the children? Just because you don’t see the pictures and names of children killed in traffic collisions doesn’t make them less important or tragic.
If you’re embarrassed to live in such a barbaric country, why don’t you leave? Why live miserably?
Also, your comment on guns being easier to find than mental health is complete BS. Here in LA County there are tons of places that offer free inpatient and outpatient mental health services.
I was thinking the same thing when listening to Obama’s speech on Sunday night. He made a comment about doing anything we can to save just one more child’s life.
An easy way to save MANY children’s lives is to ban automobiles.
But that’s not the way it works. We chose to give up some certainties in life for the convenience they bring.
Yes, we could prevent all future school shootings by putting security fences, security guards and metal detectors at schools, and even arm the teachers. But is that really a world we want to live in?
The true problem is clearly the ability to help those with the mental problems that lead to these horrors. But is there really anything that can be done? Can these people be cured? Do we really want to lock up anybody we think might be mentally unstable?
The car argument is BS. Cars were not MADE to kill. Occasionally they do. High-capacity magazines are designed for maximum KILLING. I refuse to accept that ridiculous comparison. And yes I am emotional, as a mother imagining my child leaving for school and facing that horror and/or never coming home – yes, it makes me very upset. It should upset you too, and I worry about your basic humanity that you are not outraged by this state of affairs.
Here’s a US Department of Mental Health service locator.
The help is out there LA, but mentally ill people don’t think they are nuts.
Let’s get a few things out of the way…
- Reporting has gone to seed. The press is still sorting out basic facts hours after the shooting.
- Guns don’t kill people, crazy people do. Norway has strict gun control but that didn’t stop Anders Breivik from running amok. So there.
- Speaking of crazy people, how come they’re almost always white males?
- In that case we have to keep an eye on our white males, ‘watch for signs’ and ‘take better care of our mentally unstable populace.’
- Ok sure, we could should infinite resources caring for ‘at risk’ individuals with chronic social/mental difficulties
- But, solong as they’re resistant to helping themselves, and they are, there’s little we can do to prevent shit like this from happening
- Fine, I’m going down to WalMart to buy a .22
I’m just sick of living in a society where it’s way easier to get guns than it is to get mental health care. Yes sick people kill people but they do it WITH GUNS that are way too easy to come by in this country. Meanwhile, our congress sits on their fat asses arguing over millionaires paying an additional 1% in taxes, and they get absolutely nothing done to make this country better. What are we paying them for anyway? Democrats, Republicans alike – they are not working at the jobs we pay them to do.
“According to Mother Jones, since 1982, 61 mass murders involving firearms have occurred throughout the country. Of these, 43 of the killers were white males, and only one was a woman. Mother Jones focused on whether the killers obtained their guns legally (most did). But this highly visible sign of mental illness should lead us to consider how many people in the U.S. live in fear, like I do.”
After reading the article it seems pretty obvious that us yanks would realize better outcomes by limiting the sales of firearms. Full stop.
We can have ‘nationwide conversations’ about kids like Liza’s until we’re blue in the face, but addressing and containing the full spectrum of cognitive maladies that may or may not be a threat to public safety is a task of biblical proportions for which funding and resources don’t exist. Since we can’t wish legions of psychiatrists into existence let’s do the next best thing and make guns harder to obtain.